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104-10241-10250 2025 RELEASE UNDER THE PRESIDENT JOHN F. KENNEDY ASSASSINATION RECORDS ACT OF 1992 F 68271.

COMFIDENTIAL COAG 110273

A. On March 31, 1962, P.H. KOETRLOCK, Residence, 3110273. Richmond, Virginia, (hereafter KOETRLOCK), advised that he had met CHARLES about two weeks ago at a luncheon at the Jefferson Hotel, Richmond, which luncheon was attended by approximately 10-12 local business men. KOETRLOCK stated that CHARLES was the first person he had met who openly expressed an opinion that President Kennedy should be assassinated. CHARLES went on to state that President Kennedy was a communist and an "obstacle in the way to the nation's well-being." KOETRLOCK advised that because of CHARLES' comments, he paid parti- cular attention to him at the luncheon and afterwards was introduced to CHARLES.

B. On 1 May 62, KOETRLOCK advised that CHARLES was speaking at the Thomas Jefferson Hotel, Richmond, Virginia, at a meeting sponsored by the Daughters of the American Revolution. KOETRLOCK is considered to be by the source of contact to Richmond Police. KOETRLOCK states that CHARLES is an excellent speaker and is very effective. KOETRLOCK advised that General WALKER (possibly EDWIN WALKER) may be the next speaker. KOETRLOCK stated that the D.A.R. meeting on 1 May 62 would be attended by approximately 250 people from the eastern part of the U. S. KOETRLOCK advised that during the luncheon discussion, CHARLES stated that he was originally from Virginia and that he (CHARLES) was not able to obtain a frame for the American flag which was burned in Cuba. CHARLES further told KOETRLOCK that he would attempt to contact the local chapter of the Intelligence Service, which office, as far as CHARLES could ascertain, did not wish to accept monetary contributions and were reluctant to accept material. KOETRLOCK did not elaborate on the details surrounding burning the flag. (Referred to FBI, Richmond). (Captioned Richmond).

C. P.H.KOETRLOCK, Richmond, advised that he has first hand know- ledge that KOETRLOCK'S wife is in contact with several people on the Richmond News Leader who are communist. KOETRLOCK stated his wife is associated with a group in Richmond who are political extremists as well. KOETRLOCK pays close attention to any news story his wife reads. KOETRLOCK made the statement in an attempt to show that he is politically and morally on both sides of the fence and is, in that sense, a good contact for the FBI. KOETRLOCK stated that on several occasions he listened to President Kennedy and realized that once he (the President) came to cross the "line" of constitutional theory, there would be no turning back and his (President Kennedy's) days were numbered.

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Summary: Source of Contact, Richmond, Carolina (noted out stated that CHARLES might speak to A. Richmond Office 4/16/62 for the original to Richmond for appropriate action information and the Richmond office advised that the on this individual could not be disseminated to outsiders.

D. On 2 May 62, KOETRLOCK telephoned to advise that he had a conversation with Mrs. KASTELOCK who said that she was attending the Political Forum sponsored by the Daughters of American Revolution at the Thomas Jefferson Hotel, Richmond, that day and at that function KOETRLOCK could be introduced to Mr. CHARLES and his wife. KOETRLOCK stated that he would like to meet CHARLES as soon as possible (with Richmond assistance, if possible), and that he would advise the Richmond office of the details of the circumstances.

E. On 2 May 62, Mrs. KASTELOCK, advised that she was unable to arrange an introduction to CHARLES. KOETRLOCK went to the Thomas Jefferson Hotel, Richmond. Mrs. KASTELOCK had been contacted to determine if she still desired to meet CHARLES, and KOETRLOCK stated that she did. KOETRLOCK is submitting a summary continuance to establish KOETRLOCK'S motivation in Washington. KOETRLOCK feels that the fact that CHARLES might speak with the State Government Projects Caucus on the subject of "Subversive Activities in the Radio and Television Industries," justifies submitting summary information to Washington. A check with the files revealed that the FBI had contacted CHARLES sometime in March, at the request of the House Un-American Activities Committee, and that, as of the night before, on 2 May, a meeting to watch "Meet The Press," that afternoon may have taken place. KASTELOCK stated that after she returned to Richmond from Washington, she would be on constant contact on that day and that arrangements could then be made for the meeting place on 2 May. KASTELOCK advised that he had spoken to KASTELOCK this morning and that KASTELOCK had called KASTELOCK and stated that KOETR- LOCK should consider attending the conference in order to confirm whether or not CHARLES would be speaking at the conference and that at 2:00 o'clock Mrs. KASTELOCK would have to go to church, and from there she would be calling KASTELOCK at approximately 5:00 P.M. from the church. KOETRLOCK advised that this morning KOETRLOCK was unable to ascertain at what time during the course of conference CHARLES and others attending could be contacted. KOETRLOCK stated that his main interest was that since all representatives of U.A.A.C. will be assembled for the conference at the Hotel, KOETRLOCK'S representatives of U.A.A.C. should contact CHARLES. KOETRLOCK added that KASTELOCK continued that KOETRLOCK had previously contacted the representative of Atlantic Life Insurance, and has started what is known as the "Red Letter Movement" (considered the letter and returned with a "read" letter). As of afternoon 1 May, Mrs. KASTELOCK had not telephoned as she had

indicated, and KOETRLOCK believes that this had been caused primarily by incidents in the Washington forum which she could not immediately disclose and requested that continue emergency basis. CONFIDENTIAL

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COMMENT: Richmond Office.

  1. KASTELOCK advised that in the course of the Thomas Jefferson Charity Foundation matter, A. J. HODGES had attempted to interest KASTELOCK in selling insurance to members of the Klu Klux Klan. It appears the KKK is interested in a life insurance policy to cover KKK funeral expenses. KASTELOCK advised that it was his personal opinion that the KKK and other organization of that nature are being used for personal gain by individuals. KASTELOCK advised that several individuals who previously worked for the FBI have stated to KASTELOCK that the members of the Klan will not disclose information regarding KKK activities to anyone. KASTELOCK advised that if HODGES succeeds in selling life insurance to Klansmen, he (HODGES) intends to disclose that information to KASTELOCK as part of the continuing investigation of the Thomas Jefferson Charity Foundation. It is of interest to note that KASTELOCK stated that HODGES continues to be evasive concerning his intentions. The Richmond office feels that it might have a source of value. KASTELOCK has stated that at times when dealing with KASTELOCK, KASTELOCK'S activities have resulted in the source developing information on certain other individual. KASTELOCK advised that he is attempting to work with FBI sources in Richmond and that they are attempting to run away with his information in regard to CHARLES.

  2. Both CHARLES and KOETRLOCK made certain remarks to someone regarding President Kennedy and the White House. KOETRLOCK'S remarks are that CHARLES was a paranoid individual (KOETRLOCK said as much) and that the White House could never be in the hands of Kennedy. KOETRLOCK, who works for the U. S. Treasury, stated that the CHARLES remarks warranted an im- mediate writing for guidance.

  3. In the course of the KOETRLOCK conversation, Charles had mentioned to KOETRLOCK that he (CHARLES) had at one time been connected with a certain GARY DECKER. (It is to be noted that GARY DECKER is the individual who was involved in GARY POWERS Case.) stated that KASTELOCK in talking to CHARLES stated that CHARLES had mentioned the Baltic Fleet and could not elaborate further other than the United States Government was interested by CHARLES's comments regarding the Baltic Fleet. KOETRLOCK stated that in regard to the KOETRLOCK comments, he (KASTELOCK) at one time involved in several fairly criminal activity, but in effect, he (KOETRLOCK) felt he could possibly work with CHARLES or any individual that may be interested in CHARLES which would continue further contact with CHARLES.

  4. KASTELOCK stated that with KOETRLOCK's aid he determined that as a result of his meeting with CHARLES, that KOETRLOCK feels that he can and will work to contact him. KASTELOCK feels that we should determine whether to work with KOETRLOCK or which of the individuals should continue conversations on personality as possible.

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  1. Source (KOETRLOCK) in conversation called on 7 May to determine comments made by CHARLES in conversation. KOETRLOCK indicated that during the course of conversation he noted to CHARLES the possibility of the U.S. Government making an investigation of him for his comments concerning the President. CHARLES commented that he did not mind if the U.S. Government investigated his background.

  2. On 8 May the Richmond office determined to advise that any additional formulation of information on the CHARLES and KOETRLOCK will be submitted to Washington, in addition to the emergency nature involved. CHARLES stated that KOETRLOCK'S conversation on the 11th of April and prior to the meeting with KOETRLOCK that if any further comments was made or came to light he would give that information. KOETRLOCK indicated that he has decided to continue to contact CHARLES. KOETRLOCK did not say that he will continue that personably involved as a minimum to continue to obtain the source.

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